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sábado, 23 de abril de 2016

Entrev. Corey Goode com Rob Potter Abril 2016 pt.1&2 em INGLES

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Entrevista em INGLÊS Corey Goode com Rob Potter _ Abril 2016 pt.1&2


Rob Potter and VOL with Corey Goode and the Blue Avians Part 1…04-07-2016
Postado originalmente em 07 abril 2016  em Victory of the Light Radio Show

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Rob Potter and Corey Goode Interview Part 2 Victory of the Light 04-21-2016
Postado originalmente em 22 abril 2016 em Victory of the Light Radio Show


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Dear Promise Friends and Family,

I have followed Corey’s information for some time and I have been completely fascinated. In the beginning the context and the information was disturbing to me in that the gist of his revelations and the tone of his narrative has been all of the ET groups are at each others’ throats. He was indicating the ICC and SSP groups were in complex hostile we vs. them type scenarios with almost everyone and they were always fighting against each other.

It seemed they were all competing and vying for the upper hand. It seemed all of them had agendas of not so nice intentions towards the earth populace. They are very materialistic and have no concern for the Earth populations or that the technology they were receiving and trading for was the result of slavery manipulation and even murder.

Clearly, they are aware of the hostile agenda run by the Earth minions of the Draco Cabal or Syndicate Alliance. In Corey’s early narrative it seemed that none of the 40 Super Federation guys were positive. I was mistaken, as since then I have talked to Corey several times and have gotten a clearer picture.

Obviously, we can view the Sphere Beings as being positive, but I was at first concerned that Corey may have been used to promote them as being all bad and only the Sphere beings can save us or control the Earth’s quagmire and quarantine situation. This may be true to a certain extent, however, the rabbit hole is deep even for those in this field for decades.

My experience and information from many other contactees is that there are many positive and spiritually advanced groups who have a great deal of love and compassion for us down here and they hear our prayers and are moved to help us. They are involved in the Super Federation Alliance of 40 as Corey has stated.

Corey even related information from the glass pads that challenged my views on certain things. I have not completely agreed with all of these glass pads Intel views or information still to this day. Corey has not declared these are exactly true as these are reports from the SSP. The SSP can be easily misled by some of these inter-dimensional beings in my view.

To mislead the SSP would be child’s play for certain benevolent ET groups from my understanding and the SSP glass pads could be wrong. Corey acknowledges the glass pads could be wrong in one of our interviews. I certainly do not blame Corey for reporting these things. I am aware that many of my preconceived ideas may be wrong and it will be difficult to swallow the pill of complete chaos and a lack of honesty and compassion is the only thing out there. However, I am not yet ready to acquiesce to some of his Intel about my experiences just yet. I will leave the details off the table as personal for now.

When Corey mentioned this, I told him go ahead, do not hold back and bust peoples bubble with the truth, as you understand it. We must all be more flexible in our preconceived beliefs. I agree with Corey – we must be permeable in our reality awareness.

I had not seen all of Corey’s Gaia shows until just before this interview. I watched every single one to be prepared to talk to Corey about this. A much broader picture of information is becoming clear to me. Through my approximately 6 hours of private conversation with Corey before the interview over the last 7 months or so I have come to a great deal of respect for this man.

First of all, he is humble, he is sincere, and I detect no agenda or manipulation from him in his intent or in his actions. In fact, he is going through a learning process as well. He is obviously advanced in his experience and a super intuitive empath with 20 years in the SSP to accelerate his learning as his experiences grow.

I will ask Corey to correct me if I am wrong, but I am sure he is given no details, no situational info, on where he is going or who he is meeting with when he is picked up in the sphere portals that transport him. He is like a newborn fawn in a way and has only his wits and inner integrity to deal with each encounter that he has in his journeys as the chosen delegate. He has handled himself admirably from my view of his reports.

This puts him at somewhat of a disadvantage in regards to the SSP “good guys” who want to get full disclosure out ASAP and protect themselves at the same time. The SSP good guys would rather have Gonzales, who would give them actionable Intel to allow the superior position over all ET groups.

It seems to the SSP that all ETs are hostile and dangerous and the SSP is very defensive. Rightly so from their perspective, but I feel time will alter this viewpoint they have as they begin to grow in wisdom and understanding of universal laws and have more experiences and understanding of the quarantine and the intentions of the Super Federation 40.

Corey, in my opinion, is acting as our reporter. He is for everyman and he is like an impartial camera reporting to us what he experiences based on his honest and transparent reporting. He is doing an excellent job and he is dealing with an amazing set of experiences in a very transparent and honorable way in my opinion.

I must be frank and give my personal view on certain things and these are my opinions based on my life’s experience and Corey’s conversations with me.

First, it would seem that the individuals in the SSP, including Corey, had zero contact with the benevolent Super Federation 40 groups in the past. This is apparently changing. However, Corey has had no direct contact or discussions or understanding of their relationship to Earth from these groups directly. His reports are all about the Nazi groups, their expansionist history on Earth, the solar system, on other worlds, and even in the fabric of time itself.

This lack of contact is not unreasonable as prior in his work under mind control on the 20-and-back he would be in great danger if any contact was attempted to have taken place during his tenure in space. This goes for the good SSP defectors trying to liberate Earth as well as any bases in our solar system.

Secondly, the entire program of the SSP, the ICC, etc., has all stemmed from the Nazi’s. The Nazi actually won the war in a sense and have continued the reign of terror via greedy power hungry corporate types who have wreaked untold havoc on the Earth and in outer space. The lowest moral character has joined forces with the Nazis and this has led us to where we are now.

The freewill of millions of souls in the programs and on Earth have been violated by kidnappings, lies and the amount of suffering is beyond comprehension when we consider the suppression of healing technologies as well as the manipulations of wars. There are too many atrocities to name. We all now know what is going on and we are demanding justice.

The lack of compassion by the good guys in the SSP to help Corey with his health is disturbing and wrong. Although it sucks for Corey and all of us, it is understandable as these people are victims as well and have seen so much carnage and evil that they feel their view and motus operandi is the only way. They choose to remain entrenched with fighting and military might as the only way out. As Corey said, they like to bomb their way out of situations. Many of them are true heroes and very circumspect and do not want to destroy. I will ask them to have compassion at this time.

Most of their work has been for the Cabal syndicate and they have had relations with Dracos, Mantoids, Greys and the like. They have been at war on Mars and throughout the solar system so it is natural that they have no trust for any of the ET groups and it seems no respect for even the Super Federation 40 groups.

The quarantine has had a treaty since Muhammed times to not interfere with the surface population or to contact us in any way. This has been accepted as the full on war of their combined technological might used against each other would destroy thousands of worlds if unleashed. The loss of life would be unimaginable and they all realize this. This is why hostile groups can have bases next to each other on the moon and respect each other’s space…..Sometimes.

I have heard of reports of various minor skirmishes that test the limits of the other side’s reaction on the moon in particular. So with this complex political situation in a fluid motion with multiple cultures it is certainly a difficult situation to resolve. We here, without our full consciousness restored, have it very tough indeed. The Earth is prime real estate and we are fodder in the way to some.

As Corey has said to me, we have free will and this is true especially individually. We can refuse the system and we can overcome the AI matrix. We may suffer the consequences of AI of Earth laws as we follow universal truth and may even lose our lives even. But Corey is right – the power of decision is ours to choose.

I do feel our mass consciousness has been unfairly manipulated and our freewill has been taken from us in a very evil and cunning way with advanced entrainment technology systems of slavery physically and mentally foisted upon the unsuspecting Earth person. Our Earth culture and true history has been hidden from us, and we must bite the bullet and try to get ourselves free.

First, we must free our souls into our divine birthright and access our god presence and adhere to the integrity of love and the powerful revelations that true soul contact confers. Secondly, we must unite ourselves under a common goal to find alternatives to the evil that we are perpetually entrenched in on Earth that we support.

I will submit that there are very positive and benevolent forces in the Super Federation 40 group who very much have been working hard for out liberation. The fact that Corey nor I or anyone else does not have all of the details does not mean that my postulations may not be true.

I feel that Corey is taking us through these revelations side by side with him and we are learning from him as he generously shares his experience with us. I cannot help but think that more details will come forth that will clarify what has been happening in the past and the current state of affairs.

I feel this is planned so we can gradually uncover the onion layers of the deception to heal ourselves to be free and liberate the planet.

I also feel we need to take this out of the intellectual argument phase and realize that we will not really going to get full disclosure from Corey OR Cobra or anybody until the criminals are arrested on Earth – which is our job. We must disengage from the hostile matrix at all costs. We must also be free from the hostile agendas of unfriendly beings off the planet. I also feel this must come with the help of the Sphere Beings and the Super Federation 40 good ET groups.

When it is safe for all involved and hostilities cease, then we can have the full truth. Some Earth-based intel that is being held by many brave souls to reveal the dirty truth of what has been happening here will come forward, I promise. We can then process this information that will be able to be corroborated by inner record chambers and Akashic records via crystal holograms in a unified disclosure to all.

There are many other inner Earth Agarthan networks who are not mentioned by Corey’s narrative and this will come forward in due course. Many of them will come to the surface after the AI threat can no longer threaten their civilizations.

Then I predict at some point we will have open first contact with multiple groups who will openly and lovingly explain their side of the story. In the meantime, we must keep an open mind and an open heart and a permeable bubble. This will not be a false landing with another agenda, I hope. But if this is attempted, we will know and we will reject the lies.

One day we will all be offered to join our planet in love to other positive races to learn and grow and take our place with love and true freewill to become as fully conscious and sentient beings alongside of other races. I know we have much to teach them as well . We will be free and we will explore the universe in peace and spread goodwill and compassion throughout the cosmos.

Thank you, Corey Goode, for allowing me to interview you

God Bless and Peace Unto All

Victory To The light

Rob Potter

Enjoy the interview


Rob – Hello, ladies and gentlemen. My name is Rob Potter. I’m broadcasting from here on the island of Maui. I have a very, very special edition of the Victory of Light radio show. I’m interviewing Corey Goode, one of the top whistleblowers in the world at this time, really coming out with some amazing information.

For those of you who know me, I work closely with Cobra in the past and I have also worked with in creating some information about the coming changes. Corey Goode, for those of you who know, is bringing out a lot of information in his life in the SSP.

I’m not going to go into too much into the history. I have an idea here that this is going to be an advanced interview for people who have already been following Corey’s information. For those who have not watched all the Gaia TV episodes I strongly recommend you do so.

They contain a lot of information. You can go to Corey’s website. We’ll be talking about that in a second. I’m going to bring out information here, try to set the playing field and give us a clearer understanding of what’s going on out there.

I’ve already spoken to Corey. We’re going to bring up some suppositions and test the limits and see if we can get some understanding on, you know, what we call the glass pads and the SSP, the Alliance, the Earth-based Alliance and their views and their position here.

So we’re going to get into quite a few different things – slightly political to get some clarity here. Then we’re going to go into some of this information. So much to go forward here today, so I’m going to try to keep my questions to a minimum, but I will be setting the groundwork for some of this information. So without further ado, I’m going to introduce Corey Goode and just bring him on and we’re going to get started here.

Corey, it’s a wonderful pleasure. We’ve spoken several times in the last 7-8 months on the phone. It’s really an honor to get to know you and to finally have you on the show. So welcome to Victory of Light radio show. How are you doing?

Corey – I’m doing well, how about you?

Rob – Really good. Right away there maybe . . . there’s some people who haven’t heard of your information. Why don’t you share some of your websites where people can connect with you and of course so if you can give some websites so people can follow up with your information to help support our mission.

Corey – Sure. My main website is and that’s where can find a lot of my news updates, transcripts to all of the shows that David Wilcock and I have done on which our show is Cosmic Disclosure. That’s on If you want to sign up for a subscription, if you go to, that way David and I get some sort of credit for it.

We’re also starting up a new project which is I’m sorry, I thought you were about to say something.

Rob – No, I was on mute. I just want to move forward to the interview here. Folks, I’m going to give a very brief history here. Corey Goode was a part of a unique talented group of children that was researched and chosen by the government to become what is known as an intuitive empath and he became part of a Secret Space Program.

This program which really absolutely reads like the most outrageous crazy sci-fi television show. This is so out there that the average person can look at this material and just roll their eyes and just call this a bunch of junk and a bunch of made-up stuff and disinformation and a lot of stuff that people cannot just wrap their heads around it.

I’ve been having experiences since 1970’s and spent a long time, and I’ve been expecting this type of disclosure and information to come out. I spoke many years ago about when the SSP military guys come out it’s going to make the average contactee look like a choirboy and that’s what’s happening here.

We’re getting tremendous amounts of information in regards to the history of the current Earth civilization’s development and technology and alignments that follows. Corey has gone into outer space, worked for 20 years, come back and then actually then physically regressed to a youth again and lived many years with these memories and eventually has been able to come out and share this information with the public.

There’s a unique situation in that. We could call them the good guys of the American or the world’s based, mostly American SSP, probably the most advanced SSP that we know of, have decided to come out. They have broken some of their control mechanisms, and I guess we could call it programming, and have decided to come out against their masters in the international space conglomerate and to reveal information.

So the main players in the white hats of the SSP have their own ideas. They’re kind of militarily-oriented and they have their own liaison, a gentleman named Gonzales. You can read about what the Blue Sphere Beings say. Specifically, they wanted Corey Goode to represent them and this was kind of an “upset the apple cart” so to speak.

The good guys in the SPP kind of have a hostile or contentious relationship in regards to him. They don’t trust Corey and that’s one of the things we’re going to talk about here. Corey, when I look at you being chosen here, it seems almost like the perfect choice because you were not involved with the SSP (at the time).

So there’s no necessary alliances there, you’re not treated really well by them and it seems as though you’re more of an impartial observer and this is allowing the general public to get a direct, let’s call it “a birds eye view” on this situation.

I think it was made pretty clear, you know when you were scheduled to go with the Draco’s and it was revealed all the things they wanted to do with you in one of those meetings it was good that you did not go.

If you look at it, as I was looking at it then it became clear even if they did something to you Corey, god forbid. But you’re protected and they didn’t.

The reality is someone else could take your place. You are not a policymaker only a witness delivering information like an ambassador. I’m sure there’s another intuitive empath, like a back-up plan, that could do this.

You were really like a camera and I think they realized that now and there’s anything they want to do they can replace the camera and there’s no agenda here. So in that way it makes no sense to hurt you.

I’d like you to, if you could, I’d like to start off with a thanks and gratitude from the world for you coming forward with this information. I’d like you to talk about your first meeting with the Blue Sphere Alliance and if you could tell me if they had more personal interaction with you than when you first talked. If you could talk about the first meeting and their mission statement for you as it was explained to you.

Corey – My first meeting were definitely all more of a person nature – of a personal spiritual nature and a personal nature . . . information that I still want to keep personal but also was starting to prepare me for things that were coming down the pipe. So I don’t know exactly what you’re looking for, but it was personal stuff, things that I needed to do to grow, things that I wasn’t doing at the time because I was stubborn. I wasn’t getting on a high vibratory diet, I wasn’t spending as much time in meditation as I should, and, you know, they were trying to get me in a more high vibratory state. In the beginning I was resistant. I guess, maybe on a subconscious level. I wasn’t just saying, “Oh, OK. I’ll just do that then.” It always took something occurring, some sort of catalyst like I finally got on the high vibratory diet at our last shoot at Gaia TV when I had food poisoning so bad at the beginning of the shoot. We shot, I think 10 episodes was all we were able to shoot that week because I was just deadly ill and after that my body would just totally reject meat or . . . all I eat is fruit and vegetables and I’m constantly eating, but that’s all I eat. So I somewhat refused to go on this high vibratory diet and you know, things occurred to steer me that way any way.

Rob – Very good. You’re preparing the vessel for the work to connect your, I guess we call it your higher self, your I AM presence, or what you call the resonance center, to receive this information and to be prepared to assimilate this higher vibration. I was talking about identification and information. I was wondering if they told you anything about your past lives and did you get an overview of the situation and the political situation going on with the mission or has that been kind of kept from you?

Corey – I’ve been asked a couple times if I wanted to know who I was, who I am and who I will be, whatever that means. I assume that means past lives and I know that, but something has told me that I don’t need to know that and that has been my response that I don’t need to know that right now. What was the 2nd part of your question?

Rob – I understand that. You don’t need to know that as part of your past, I meant in relationship to them. The other thing I was wondering about, did you speak about philosophy and vetting them for what is their belief and their agenda and what is the information that they wish to convey through you to the world?

Corey – These are not conversations like I’m having with you right now. These are very . . . it’s taken a while for me to learn the way they communicate is so cryptic. They’re so big about not violating free will and given they provide information and when I tell, when I tell David, you know, when I would communicate with David Wilcock after a briefing, he said that’s how they communicate things in The Law of One.

I have no reason why, I have no idea why, but it’s a bit frustrating, you know. It’s just the way these higher density beings are. I mean we try to overlay our 3rd, 4th density way of thinking on top of them and that’s just not going to fly. These beings are in a totally different wavelength literally and they’re basically talking down or coming down to communicate with us.

This non-verbal communication does not occur in linear form like a sentence or a conversation would. The communication occurs in images and smells and tastes and all the different sensory input types that you would think of.

Rob – Right. So it’s a full kind of telepathic communication where you get a lot of information and there’s a lot at this point in time the details are kind of open ended for you. I do have a question because a lot of the contactees, and this includes even the scientific contactees, have a different positive feeling from them .

Those who I’m working with say in the Super Confederation Alliance of 40 worlds their interactions seem to indicate a very kind of a spiritual inner orientation. You have brought out in your interviews, but it hasn’t been really like at the forefront, and I think that’s because obviously you don’t want to get people wrapped up in religion and polarization and you simply want this information to come out.

Still, we are there in, I guess, we could call it the law of one or a spiritual orientation. What I would postulate when it comes to God, and I’m going to the Wendell Stevens book with the Iargan group that kind of look like an ape (they come from the vegan system), they postulate that there are basic axioms for understanding God.

People question is it god or is it evolution? I would say that god created evolution. When I say God, I do not mean an anthropomorphic being sitting on a throne with a beard. I’m talking about divine intelligence that knows the beginning from the end and has a plan for souls and certain laws of the universe. We can call it the law of one or whatever.

Their axioms are this: “That something cannot come from nothing, so we are something; therefore we came from something! That something could be called the creator or god.”

The alternative paradoxical axiom is that that source that has created us had to come from something. So there’s really no empirical logical dualistic mind way of saying that there is a God. There is also no way to say there is not a God or creator.

Yet, if you choose there is no god, it’s kind of like, it’s just a materialistic random universe that leaves it quite cold, and the benevolent ETs assure us this is not the case. They are emphatic that there is a reason and a purpose and that the power of love is the binding force of the universe.

In fact, the nature of all creation, and the what they would call, you could call the divine intelligence, source or creator. I don’t want to pop anyone’s religious bubble and relations here. Can you talk about your understanding of this or have they mentioned to you anything about the creator or the positive side like looking at the glass as half full – that through faith, as opposed to demanding rational explanations for everything?

Corey – Well, most of what’s been communicated to me is basically their beliefs. Most of their beliefs go back to something about a oneness – that there is an intelligent resonant field and this intelligent resonant field, this resonant field, creates a geometric pattern that is the basis of matter, that creates matter, and then this matter is intelligently manipulated within the different fields and torsion fields that have consciousness that’s a part of this resonance consciousness is in a resonant field and that they call, that we all call the created source, that David Wilcock called the Source Field in his book. There are many names for it.

Rob – Right. All names would belong to this. Anything that we can use with our mind would limit the infinite mind of this source field. I’m not uncomfortable with the word creator. I have another question for you. We have spoken previously privately, and you spoke in part of your implant removal process was to invoke the name of Jesus Christ and when you had spoken about this to Ra’ Tear you stated that he bowed and acknowledged you and I’m wondering, was this. . . did you get a sense like this was, “Yea, whatever dude, bow” or was it kind of like, “Yes, we acknowledge that source of information.”

Corey – They acknowledged that source of power.

Rob – OK, thank you. Have they talked about implants ?

Corey – These were, you said implants and I guess that could be terminology, but these were entity attachments.

Rob – Right, OK. Yea, entity attachments. I was going to talk about that a little bit in the future. I wanted to talk a little about the term breakaway first. According to one of my friends that passed over, Dr. Frank Stranges, who was working with a gentleman named Commander Valiant Thor, he claims to have gone to Venus with him as well as to some Inner Earth positive civilizations. He had mentioned that some of the Mayan civilizations like the ones some of the ones that healed you did move the Pleiades.

So my question is about the word breakaway as it kind of sounds like a competition and someone moving it in a power sense. It seemed to me from the explanation that was given to me for this group was that they had reached a level of community and . .

Corey – Bifurcated is more accurate. Bifurcation. They just split away.

Rob – At that point when they broke away the world there wasn’t much communication to other parts of the world. So they were not a lone world order kind of thing. They just basically bifurcated. They decided their predilection was to move beyond the Inner Earth and go elsewhere.

So there are other groups, you would agree, that are not necessarily along the lines and agenda of the SSP international conglomerate that are separate from us but are not necessarily hostel to us or breaking away in that sense?

Corey – That are part of our current era?

Rob – Well . . That brings us to another questions, but let me just say the question would be: You would agree that there are other . . . In the history of our Earth, there have been groups of people from the surface that have basically either moved to the Inner Earth or off the planet.

Corey – Yes, absolutely. Our recent breakaway civilization thing that has occurred, it is not a phenomena that has occurred for the first time on this planet. There have been other civilizations that developed to a certain point and then, of course, the priesthood who guarded the knowledge and the science and were also the science class, you know guarded this information and kept it and them and the elites just like us and our elites kept that information and segmented themselves away from the general population.

Rob – OK. One of the things that I’ve heard about from what I understand from Inner Earth is that there is a positive Agarthan network that you haven’t mentioned in any of your talks. Would you go into that a little bit? We talked about things called the Ra’s. We talked about Ra Tear.   From the Atlantean civilization at the time they were forseeing cataclysms coming through the misuse of technology.

I guess the basic battles going on between these farmer groups were destabilizing the Earth’s tectonic plates and that some of the spiritual centers of Earth groups around the planet chose to go inside the earth.

Thus, they created an Agarthan network and they were called the Ra’s. Beneath Giza is Ra, beneath the Himalayans is Ra-Ma, There’s one beneath the Bermuda Triangle called Ra-Yolo, There’s another one called Poisided in Brazil. Beneath Shasta is Ra-Mu. There are many other ones I imagine.

Corey – Where does this information come from?

Rob – This information comes from what is known as the Great White Brother/Sisterhood. This is one of the things I was kind of curious about to address because some of your experiences with the Inner Earth groups, the Omegans and the groups you have met with, seems that they are not very far evolved. They have a beautiful technological civilization there, but there’s still fear. 18 million years that group is in their projecting themselves and making telepathic communications out of fear to rule the surface population?

Corey – No, they’re connecting with people to give them benevolent information, but they’re using subterfuge as . . . to protect their location, as any group would do for protecting your home base and your assets and all of that.

Rob – Yea, I can kind of see that, and on another level I was kind of thinking there would be more of positive open interaction and I think that’s what . . .

Corey – That’s what they’re lobbying for, and the reason there hasn’t been that is that back to the close to the time of Muhammad,there was a major treaty signed among all these groups, and it had to do with open contact walking among humanity, and it had to do with letting us develop on our own with only . . . with them skirting the rules with mild and manipulating from the back-ground through proxy, human proxy agents mostly. So this is one of the things that the Anchar Alliance have requested to have meeting with the Super Federation to see if this treaty can be re-visited.

Rob – Is this treaty between the Inner Earth groups of the Agarthan network?

Corey – All the groups in this solar system abide by this treaty, even the Draco. There was open warfare in our skies above our planet up until even our current historical era between all these groups, until this treaty was signed.

Rob – OK. I guess that leads me to another question here. So they’ve all had this treaty that I call the Quarantine, and it’s based on to keep things so there’s not battles in the skies but there still are.

Corey – Not only that but not allowing them to be seen and walk among us – to allow us to develop our society without direct physical interaction and manipulation by them even though, as always, it seems in all these cosmic treaties and rules there are little ways in the background for the benevolence and others to circumvent parts of the treaties.

Rob – Obviously there’s certainly evidence, the bad guys are circumventing this clearly. One of the gentlemen that I sent you a link to named Bob Reynaude has a website called the Terrakor Files

Terrakor Files this is a good group of ET’s not in the Federation but from what is called the Alliance. I’d like to share with you one of the things that they have stated that since Earth this is a Confederation world and as such we do not have any military confederation type protection for ourselves.

They said that they had discovered that in the 1800’s a group called the Omegans came to earth and infiltrated us and are using subterfuge in violation of those agreements and are infiltrating us. The Omegans have done this on many different worlds in the past.

Through the political and the military process and they keep the people at each other’s throats. To counter this threat the Alliance has also infiltrated the Earth through a technology which they talk about which is basically how they work amongst us. They can have their life form body from another world.

They step into a portal and they disappear and they show up on Earth in a human physical body that is adjusted to our gravity, that is kind of like a holograph relationship to the soul that can exist in our environment. So they are definitely involved as sleeper agents in all aspects of society and religion and society and media and science and military and political and things of this nature. Do you have any information about the positive groups working to stem this . . . these other groups who are seeking a parasitical nature with us?

Corey – Could you be a little bit more specific about which negative groups? You gave a lot of details there with these people you gave me links to.

There’s lots of different parasitic relationships going on on the etheric level and on, even on the physical level you have relationships every day that people have in their lives are parasitic relationships.

Rob – Right I’m talking more specifically in an intention work that is coming here to infiltrate this planet, use it’s resources and subjugate the people through the NWO kind of technology here. I’m talking about the reptilians, the Grays and some of these human groups even which I would say are like, some people call them the Omegans are the Kalrans.

These groups don’t generally like to work together, but according to this gentlemen, some of them are forced to work together like “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” so to speak. He talks about these different groups that are actually, we would call them down here the forces of light. It seems that the Ra Tear is viewing the same thing kind of like there’s been a lot of interference here and they’re here to kind of clear the playing field, is that correct?

Corey – Yes, they stated that their main purpose has been to basically interact with the humanities’ co-creative consciousness, mass consciousness in a symbiotic way. Work with directly with that mass consciousness to help it – help it to determine it’s path and future outcome and that’s the high level area of what they’ve been doing. The low level area of what they’ve been doing is more on the level of, you know, speaking to me or to these others or speaking, communicating to these other beings. Because when they first . . . when their presence was first made known, all of these beings were trying to hail them or get in contact with them but they were not being acknowledged.

Rob – Obviously they’re not being acknowledged. I’ve heard reports that some of these ships were here since the ’70’s. I have another kind of question . . .

Corey – I wouldn’t doubt, (and they’re not ships) I wouldn’t doubt these sphere’s have been here since, probably for many many decades before that if not longer.

Rob – Yes, and a lot of our information here is based on our physical plane experience, and so I have another question for you. How far up in dimensions have, if you know, is the Cabal or the NWO SSP program been able to go? I know some of the technology allows them to travel on the astral plane where time doesn’t exist – beam ship portal technologies. I’m kind of curious.

Corey – They’re able to travel to other realities or dimensions. There’s one reality that they’ve traveled back and forth in-between now. Most of the travel that I’m aware of has to do with travel within our solar system and the information I have of travel outside of our solar system with souls and through portals.

Rob – Oh. So we don’t know exactly which dimensions. It’s not really known or deciphered at this point.

Corey – Well. . That’s really hard, Dimensions . . . like if you’re looking at crystals or diamonds, there are different facets. Those are different realities timelines, and dimensions, densities are not the same thing. So you know there’s a lot of, you know, there’s a lot of confusion out there.

People talking about going to, you know, going to another dimensions or another density and these other density beings, their consciousness and their molecules, they’re vibrating, their frequency is vibrating at a a higher frequency than ours and they’re higher vibratory beings.

I’ve physically touched and interacted with them and they have the ability as they get higher and higher frequency to just change their self to complete energy and forego, for a lack of a better word, or teleport wherever they like. They just change frequency of their consciousness to the frequency of the location they want to be and they shift to that location.

Rob – Right, these are some of the higher beings. I wanted to go into that in a couple seconds, but I wanted to confirm what you talked about. Beam ships have cameras above and below the bottom of the ship, and as you said, they have these star, the star pathways are mapped out and so at certain times when there’s less star systems in-between they can go much quicker and they can just project where they are and where they want to be and they just jump and they’re there.

Corey – They really don’t use cameras, they use remote imagery that there is nothing that we have.

Rob – Obviously it’s an interactive technology that maps astral pathways and the numbers are always mapped into this super consciousness things. Here’s another thing I wanted to ask you is I personally have had initiation experiences in regards to leaving my body when I was very young and having experiences with positive benevolent forces, and in my experiences I recognized that I am an luminous being. I was actually able to look down and to see that I was, I guess you could call it, the soul or the light body that was . . . The physical body was encased in it and I looked down below my navel and I saw that I had these filaments that would reach out and touch the world. A famous author, Carlos Castaneda, who studied under Don Juan, said this is called the Will.

There are supposedly various points on the body that correspond to physical organs like the spleen would be the dreaming. We have what is called the Tonal and the Nagual, which also correspond to different points of the body. The center of feelings is at the tip of the breastbone. The reason is in the head. I actually experienced that on my luminous body there’s a position called death and it was to my left as it was stated in the books.

I actually could reach out and touch it. It was kind of a yellowish field and when I touched it and acknowledged it, it kind of filled me with a higher light vibratory energy. I was wondering in the SSP or any of your contact with the Sphere Being Alliance, did you have any experiences of this nature of understanding the luminous self and how it is different than the physical body and what that type of information and knowledge you might share with us?

Corey – Well yea. When we were going through the MILAB programs we were constantly being put through programs, put through processes where we were having out-of-body experiences and through the remote viewing and remote influencing training, we were, you know, doing the visualizations and the experiments to where we were leaving our bodies and looking at our light bodies and then expanding our light bodies and that kind of a thing.

Rob – Can you describe the light body? For me, it looked like someone had bundled up some hair, there were luminous filaments, almost hairy like a spider’s legs and they were within my body and it was a very kind of like a separate reality type of thing.

Corey – Yea, it was a giant . . . With us, we were told to picture it this way, so I guess it was some sort of front loaded into my way of perceiving it, but it appears as a bright energy field with different color and size orbs floating around, and we would then float around inside the light body and visit orbs and visit the orbs for information and the orbs were a conduit, were said to be a conduit to our higher selves or a symbol of a conduit to our higher self. A lot of what occurs with people is that we’re in communion subconsciously with our higher selves all the time and our higher selves is very, very much connected into the root of source and we’re being fed and given a lot of information that way. And a lot of people have a real high connection, a real close connection, to their higher self and our higher self and our conscious self will, our conscious self will take information from our higher self and present it to us in different ways. So sometimes we’ll perceive some mystical or spiritual experiences and it is a mystical and a spiritual experience between you and your higher self-receiving some very advanced information, but we perceive it as something else because consciously from our belief systems, or from our experiences we’re front loading the experience. That’s not all cases; that are some cases.

Rob – Very good. It seems to be filtering through the programming. I want to offer for you that we are, as David Wilcock says, a toroid, this fractal of light is when one looks at the top seen as a toroid. When you look at the front of the toroid it is like we are a human light or magnet. The electro magnetic flow from the anode to the cathode or from the brain and to the base of the spine we look like a butterfly.

One of the Shaman’s explanations is that where from our resonance center that we are projecting an assemblage point on our luminous self that we perceive things from and in some of the ancient mythology and technology that I guess from our. . Part of our problem is that we have these programs and belief systems that allow us to only experience the omniverse from one assemblage point and one perspective .

Corey – A lens. Yea. It becomes a lens and we see everything through that lens. New information comes out and we pull out our accumulated experiences and belief systems out of our pocket and dust it off and shine it up on our shirt real quick and we hold that up to the new information which some would call incoming light and that light is refracted through that lens of our belief system.

Rob – Right. And they said that a man of knowledge who follows the path with heart must be more fluid in his understanding where reason is not a despotic guard that should be a broad minded guardian to more higher dimensional be able to see the multi-dimensional information that’s coming in from different levels.

Corey – Yes, and that and self doubt. Wisdom and self doubt go hand in hand, because once you feel like you’ve got everything locked up, you’ve closed yourself off to any further growing. A wise person may think that we may sit there and think we have things all figured out, but we’re wise enough to listen to other information but keep our reality bubbles permeable to new information, but then again we’re running it through our filter of our experiences and belief system.

Rob – I wanted to talk about that filter of the lower personality vehicle which is the physical body and to state that some of these hostile groups like the Draco’s, who have an advanced awareness of this light body that they have as I understand there are, if you have ever heard of the engram or there are 9 points where you’re the giver, the knower, the leader, etc., etc.

There are names for the type of personality and according to these light beings that we have these fixations, which are our filters and beliefs that we’ve held that have become very rigid, and there are 9 of them. In ancient Hindu mythology is Kali – this girl holding a skull and she’s got 9 skulls and her knife.

It looks like a deadly evil thing, but it really is a good thing as it represents the cutting of the attachments to these viewpoints to allow us to hear more from our resonate center. There are these fixations which skew our view into a narrow bandwidth of perception.

So I’m wondering . . . it seems like the SSP and all these guys, everything they’re doing is geared along the lines of the black monks for control and power and that all of the things that you’ve described for the most part have been this historical breakaway civilization with the Nazi’s, which is just fascinating. I don’t doubt a bit of it . . .

Corey – What’s interesting about that is this new whistleblower that’s coming forward, William Tompkins. He was writing his book, “Selected by Extraterrestrials”, and he released it in Dec 2015. He’s about 94 years old now. He worked for the Navy. He had NO idea of the information that I was releasing. A person passed . . . Right after he published this book, a person passed my information that I’d given through Dr. Salla’s book “Insider’s Reveal Secret Space Programs and Exraterrestrial Alliances”, and he contacted Dr. Sala and was shocked. He said he’s a part of the Navy sanctioned disclosure project and that he’s going to be the first person to put a lot of this information out. He’s pretty shocked. I got his book. It just arrived. I haven’t got a chance to even look at it. A lot of people’ve been talking to him and much of the information correlates. I was told whistleblowers are going to start coming forward, which was about 7 months ago, and then I heard crickets and nobody came forward and I was getting nervous. There’s another person being vetted that came forth and 2 more in the wings that are being prepped to come forward that are whistleblowers. It looks like some exciting times ahead of us.

Rob – Yes. It’s a wonderful time. Michael Salla talked about that to me before, of course. We have this long history of ancient aliens and you don’t have to worry. I think there’s going to be a lot more people coming out. (I’m not worried).

One of the thrusts for this interview is kind of lay groundwork and a foundation for the orientation of these different groups. When you think about, OK we have the Earth-based Alliance, the good guys and the SSP. I’m really concerned with their ethics and morals.

As you mentioned, they bombed their way out of things. They’re contentious towards you. You’re at the lunar operations command and they won’t offer you healings. We have people down here on the Earth obviously that need healing. Some have awakened up and feel guilty about things they did under mind-control and they are concerned about blowbacks and reactions. It’s a human condition.

Corey – You haven’t even touched the Earth Alliance. They’re just as damaged as a group as you’ve just mentioned. These are considered the good guys right now out there fighting on our behalf while we’re sitting here not doing a whole lot.

Rob – Right, that’s part of, I believe, our mission. My mission is to wake people up so that we can empower ourselves. There are tremendous amounts of secret agents and guys who are working against this NWO (Oh yea) who have had tremendous loss of life and are very frustrated and have to live in absolute secrecy and I’m sure some of them are hidden in underground bases and things of this nature.

I wanted to ask you, maybe you could, and one of the things I’m looking for is this. . . Somehow this plan of unity. . . It seems to be fractured with the surface population orienting towards this spiritual, not necessarily pie-in-the-sky, but this nonviolent view of transformation and change. Do you believe it’s possible that the spiritual vibrations and the Galactic federation of 40 planets in conjunction with the benevolent Inner Earth groups, if they’re aligned properly at the right time, can overcome this Artificial Intelligence, AI, matrix?

Corey – Well, yes. There’s a plan for that AI matrix to come down. There is a plan that it’s all a part of . . . and I can’t go into it. It’s a . . .and some people can probably extrapolate, it’s a situation that will happen solar system wide and after that we will be having a need to be working on a a whole new type of technology anyway, so it would be a perfect time to usher in the new technologies.

Rob – Yes, I understand they’ve done this on many worlds before. That these hostile groups that are kind of conjoined with this AI-type of technology are usually choosen worlds that are not under a confederation or alliance umbrella and they take over these worlds. They’ve had a lot of practice with what they’re doing to us here.

Corey – They don’t care who’s in control.

Rob – Right, but they take whoever’s in control and they manipulate the situation behind the scenes, would you agree with that?

Corey – Yes. They manipulate things covertly until they get a certain . . . to a certain place operationally and they become very overt and take over. Yes, this AI presence permeates everywhere and it’s an issue that all groups have to deal with and only very few groups have totally eradicated the problem from their area at all by finding a way to completely dampen their signal all together from coming in to their region of space.

Rob – Yes, I think this is one reason for the quarantine and one reason that I was told by the benevolents that they are very concerned. In the text of the link that I sent you by the Terrakor Files, by Bob Reynaude, you can read the history. He was revealing some of this information back in ’88.

They have extreme . . . All the benevolent groups are very concerned about this AI. They quarantine people who are on missions to Earth and do this technology and do this psychological testing repeatedly and again to determine if this person has some sort of AI, which can infect them.

Corey – When did this come out?

Rob – This came out in 1988 (WOW) and he said one of they’re . . . He’s been underground. He spoke and gave information to Gabriel Green. He was receiving radio signals in the late ’50’s. He actually fell in love with one of these beings and has been to their world. It’s a very interesting bit of information. Some of the information he was receiving, some of the negative forces came on an Earth-based hill and projected false-based information that he didn’t discover for years.

So it’s a very cat-and-mouse game between these guys. He mentioned that the good guys have a transponder net around the planet where they can teleport and beam out an operative in moments. It’s not complete. In city areas it’s more difficult. Their agents are here constantly working.

He also revealed what they do on any worlds they infiltrate. They get within the governments, and then they attack the world and then claim it’s the confederation. They do minor infrastructure damage, with a lot of loss of life, and then they say ‘look Earth people, why don’t you sign an alliance? We’ll protect you from the confederation.” Whatever the plan it is they agree with these guys and they sign up and they don’t realize they made a pact with the devil, kind of like what we’ve done.

Corey – You see with all these different narratives floating around, we can see why this community . . . we are chasing our tails right now looking. There’s more information than ever and more important information than ever out they’re for us right now, but there’s just so much information and so much information that is just slightly different or some information that conflicts here and there. For the average person out there that’s in this community it is confusing as heck enough. Now imagine the sleeping masses out there approaching them with the information and trying to get some of this information disseminated to them and they’ve been socially conditioned with the giggle response to anything if they hear a word ‘non-terrestrial’ or ‘UFO’.   As humanity, we’ve got a lot to overcome in this disclosure process, and as a community that lens I was talking about that we use as a filter about what is true and what is not true and what we’re going to allow into this reality bubble of ours to let it expand or not. We’ve got to not throw away that filter that we’ve created over time, but what we need to do is put it in our pocket and say ‘You know what? None of us have the truth – the full truth.” We have bits and pieces of it. When it comes, when we get full disclosure, I don’t care who you are, Cobra, me, and anyone out there that are out there giving information. They’re giving information as they experienced it. When we get full disclosure every single one of us will be set back on our heels, and we’re going to have to adjust to a new reality.   But we’re going to be far more prepared than all the sleeping masses out there. As the starseeds, as the people who are more consciously prepared, we’re going to have to deal with the new reality that occurs and then we’re going to have to lead out there and help all of these people that are going to be shocked and they’ll have a hard time with the full disclosure narratives. As David said, there are going to be people that aren’t going to want to get out of bed and want to take Xanax and curl up with their pillow and lay in the dark and you’re going to have to make them get out of bed and take a bath and eat. There’s going to be little bit of that. They say that we can’t handle disclosure, but Laura Eisenhower said something, “We’ve been handling all their false flag wars and their disease and all the stuff they’ve been doing. We can handle disclosure.” It will be rough, but we can handle it.

Rob – I absolutely agree with you there. We can handle the truth. It’s just a ploy by them to hide their crimes and continue their selfish behavior. It’s reprehensible and they’re criminals and they need to be arrested. I’d like to announce Cobra and unity and we need to come together. We all have parts of the truth. Ladies and Gentlemen, I can confirm now that Corey will be doing a joint Cobra interview sometime later.

I have one more thing I’d like to address here and I have a question for you. I’ve watched your interviews very carefully. You’ve talked about AI infecting a computer and it lies dormant in the planet. It seems as though this AI, which exists in the Internet, would infect everyone, and you kind of make it seems like you don’t get infected and it’s harder to get. It seems like every single person on the planet is infected to me. Some of Cobra’s information is about the scalar plasma field technology of how this AI acts in a parasitic relationship to the luminous body that you talked about.

So can you clarify for me . . . You kind of made it sound like you go onboard and they can see that you are not infected. (Yes.) How can anyone know if they’re infected if you don’t have this technology? How cannot everyone not be infected now with the way the Internet and smart phones and everyone is touching their technology. Obviously they’re infecting everyone or does the infection come and go?

Corey – Exactly. Everyone is potentially compromised, but it kind of is in a state of totally traveling around. It’s very dynamic. Now if you happen to be a person that it can evaluate you and know your operational use to it, then it’s not going to waste time on you. Does that make sense?

Rob – Yea, the programs. You’re eating weaponized food, you’re sucking in the chem-trails, you’re smoking cigarettes, and you’re in the system big time, folks.

Corey – Yes, and the signal does lock in with your bioneural field. The biology of your body, your neurological system puts off an electrodynamic field and within that field is where this signal hosts itself and there is equipment not available to us that can . . . it reads your field and through that field they can also read all of your vitals and even your brain waves and they read the field and look for any crossover brain – something in the brain waves and something in the field to see if there’s any cross over or to see if it’s normal. If you show up as being positive, then you have to go through a process and I don’t know the full process, but I do know it involves a moderate shock, an electrical shock to clear your bioneural field.

Rob – Interesting. This is very much in alignment with Cobra. And I want to ask you one more question on this before we end this show. Folks, we’re going to do Part 2 here right away and you’ll be getting that next week. Cobra has mentioned, and I totally agree with this, that this AI is not like the Borg ‘resistance is futile’.

We do have our super soul resonance field to connect into that can overcome this, so it’s a very difficult process on this world. I want to confirm with you that this AI reacts so quickly it seems like it is its own intelligence, but it’s actually a technology and it’s run by someone on the program and it’s an auto program, but it’s still a program and it can be crashed and it will be crashed. Is that your understanding?

Corey – Well, no. It is a life form that we do not understand, but it is a life form. There are a lot of different life forms out there that if they were to be given to you, you would right now not classify them as a life form. You would classify them as something else. They are not exactly an actual program or a code. This is an intelligent signal. This intelligent signal is most comfortable and able to do more while it inhabits in electronics in technology. It is not a program. Now the nanites are programmed. Some of them are programmed and some of them are nanites – drones for the AI signal, which is being broadcast.

Rob – OK. Absolutely. That’s interesting. It’s going to be interesting when Cobra and you discuss this information; this one in particular I think is a unique one. It’s sounding like terminator and Star Wars and it gets really scary. When you think about and look at all this negativity out there to lend a little light heartedness to the end of this conversation.

I kind of think back to David Spade and Saturday night Live ‘Who’s in charge”, the Church Lady goes, “Satan”. I’m kind of curious, maybe we’ll get into this the next interview, if there is a specific group that are doing this service-to-self the numbers of them vs. the benevolents. I want to address in the next interview a little bit about the Super Confederation of the positive guys that are nonviolent, that are the hippy dippy, that do come from Love and are trying to heal the situation in a nonviolent way and their position and their numbers vs the other guys.

Ladies and gentlemen, it’s been fascinating. Corey, I want to thank you so much for this first interview. We’ve barely scratched the surface. I have lots more questions. Thank you so much for coming on here today. We’ll see you again next week.

Corey – Thank you.

Rob – Alright folks, anther update: I do have a Mt. Shasta Summer Conference going on with Luis Maertens in Mt. Shasta. When this comes out I’d like you to check that out.

The conference at the end of July is with Luis who is also connected with Michael Salla and he is in contact with some of the Benevolent’s civilizations from South America and Bolivia.

We’ll also be sharing in Shasta some of the viewpoints with the positive physical people from the planet Venus. More of a spiritual nature exploration kind of like a boot camp training – like Corey Goode’s SSP advanced learning.

We will focus more aligned towards spiritual lines in developing our luminous selves and the pituitary and pineal gland to prepare ourselves for direct contact with these higher vibrational beings. It’s pretty good folks. Corey Goode is now a vegan – changing his lifestyle. God bless you all and thank you so much Corey.

Corey – Thank you.

Rob – Thank you, Corey Goode.


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Dear Promise Friends,

I must appologize for the one week delay in getting this interview out as we had some scheduling difficulties. Speaking of scheduling I am happy to report we have confirmed the joint interview date with Corey and Cobra. The interview will take place May 5th and we will release the transcript shortly after that interview.

Because this is a 3-way conversation the voice modulation for Cobra will be difficult and time consuming. We are only going to offer a Transcript for this interview, however, if someone wants to volunteer to try and edit the Audio version please contact me and be sure to leave your phone number so we can discuss your involvement. You may also mail your suggested questions for this interview to the same email address.

In this interview, Corey and I discuss The AI signal, and I try to get clarity on exactly what this is all about. There is some talk that this signal has taken over galaxies, which is scary. Corey says this signal can be overcome, but much more information is needed.

We also discuss free will individual vs the earth people as a group consciousness. There seems to be this idea that even though we are not conscious on the physical level it seems we have made soul contracts and agree to come to earth with the awareness it will be difficult. I have spoken to Omnec and another Venusian who now lives on earth.

They both are here for the duration and, for some reason, cannot go home. I will guess this is the quarantine is why. In any case, they are stuck here like everybody else. They both said they had no idea how very difficult and painful their missions would become. They both were told repeatedly it would be difficult, but they chose to come out of compassion and to grow spiritually. Life on Earth, as we all know, is filled with a myriad of challenges. The many beautiful experiences are beyond measure and life is a precious gift.

We may even have it easier than some of our space family guests, because for them them a Paradise Lost descent may be more difficult as we have only inklings of previous experiences where life is more harmonious. A longing to leave and return to the planet of love must be suppressed by them, but they have a knowing from having come from there so they also know this is temporary.

We, on the other hand, for the most part, have the unbelievable beauty of planet Earth, which is our home to uplift and to inspire us towards the connection to the divine. At the same time, we are ignorant of our direct connection to our soul. We are light bulbs on a dimmer switch trying to connect to full light being status. We could access our past lives and have the understanding of what is exactly transpiring; it could make things more palatable. For now we strive to break free from our quarantined Earth human consciousness.

We must constantly seek the higher spiritual values as we wallow in the muck of the material world. Truth, honesty, justice and even love seem to flee from those who earnestly desire reunion. My faith is that there is a plan and that at a certain point this planet and our collective will can achieve. As we choose to nurture and to have tolerance for each other, our individual merits will turn the tide for love.

The space family in its entirety are the key to Earth’s destiny. Corey, Cobra and the many, many people before them, are part of this unveiling of the Truth. I personally have been seeking answers my entire life and I feel the lid is about to pop on many levels.

These interviews will hopefully establish in the group resonant field the reality we perceive is not the only reality that exists. The more aware and compassionate we all become the sooner we can rejoice together to live life as it is intended to be: free, prosperous, happy, joyful, peaceful and loving. We must realize our brothers and sisters the world over are not as happy as we are.

We must reach out to sacrifice ourselves or at least our complacency for the greater cause of justice. The money slave system reality is about to pop and we must not mourn its death and be prepared to give for the sake of giving – to be present because it is the right thing to do.

Listen and learn from all and ponder and reflect on what is real. Let your soul guide you into a path of service that will benefit not only you but our fellow man. If you are passionate, make ways to reach others aware that we are all brothers and sisters, and that we must stand up and create a better way and find solutions to the Earth’s problems so we are prepared when the opportunity arises to implement a new paradigm of living in the right relationship with all creation.

May the efforts of Corey, and the countless other people who are doing the right thing because it is what must be done, be a glimmer, nay a powerful explosion, of light that gives you hope and patience. The end of the tunnel is in sight and we did not come here to fail.  The time for what we must all endure as the changes upon us all will uplift and depress and through it all realize it is a wonderful time to be alive.

In The Light of Our Radiant One

Warm Regards

Victory To The Light

Rob Potter

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IAM your host Rob Potter and I’d like to welcome you to a special edition of the Victory of Light Radio show: – Corey Goode Secret Space Program (SSP) the push for full disclosure Part 2. I’d like to thank people at Pyramid One, Bob Charles and Bob Allen, for having me on their show. I’d like to remind you they do have a donation button to keep their site running and keep these shows going.

My web-site has a lot of wonderful information and pretty cool products out there. I’m moving into laser beams. We do have some Cintamani stones left. Another interesting product for you to get to help develop yourself along conscious lines. If you want to check that out, you may do so.

I have speaking engagements at these coming events: at Olympia Washington at the Galactic Wisdom Conference with my friend Ted Marr. That’s going to be taking place June 10-13 (2016). I’ll be traveling doing some workshops in Asia towards the end of June.

I will be returning to the states for my Solar Conference with wonderful Luis Maertens. I spoke to you about it a lot. I’m going to ask you to go to my upcoming events at and check out Luis’s information there. There’s lots of video’s there about him and his amazing contact, program contents. Michael Salla went there as well as many newspaper agencies repeatedly have gone to the mountains in Bolivia and have had UFO’s appear.

My group in Bolivia had one such experience in a very special retreat and that picture’s up there as well. We’re hoping we have the same thing take place at Shasta this summer. This is going to be a wonderful event. Luis has an amazing, very amazing, presentation. He’s always up for some experiential experiences that we’re going to have this summer up on the mountain.

I am working with the forest service for special permission for our group. It’s going to be a wonderful event this summer. Please do sign up. We are looking for vendors and for volunteers if you want a free ticket. Check out that information on the website.

Before we start the Corey interview, Corey and I spoke, and I wanted to make something clear. Obviously, I don’t know everything. Corey doesn’t know everything. He said I misunderstood something’s about the SSP’s relationship to the Super Federation 40. I have not read every single word Corey has written.

It certainly wasn’t very clear to me in the episodes. He maintains that we’re going to receive a lot more information about this relationship with the this SSP program benevolent group that have broken away from the ICC SSP group in order to bring technology and liberate planet Earth from the lies and corruption of criminal activity that’s been taken place not only on Earth but within our solar system by these breakaway groups.

And I’m looking forward to that clarity and delineation in the upcoming interviews. If I have made any errors I apologize. I want to thank you, Corey, once again for coming on here. I want to tell all of the listeners that I absolutely feel that Corey is absolutely sincere. He’s a really good, nice guy, folks. He’s doing the best that he can to share the information with us, and we’ll go step by step here as we get more and more revelations. Corey Goode’s welcome to the Victory of Light Radio Show. It’s an honor to have you on again.


Corey – Thank you

Rob – Please, again, share the information for those people who are checking this interview out first or maybe just hearing about you through me. Share with them our websites and your mission of full disclosure here.

Corey – Sure, yes. My main website is You can find articles and updates I’ve written under the news section as well as transcripts from David Wilcock and my show on called Cosmic Disclosure. If you’d like to watch the show you can go to and sign up there and watch a few free episodes.  I recently started, and I didn’t start this. It’s a collaborative effort among a bunch of different people ,and I don’t have permission to use their names yet. We’ve started an effort called the Full Disclosure Program to where all the different people in this community are going to get together, put aside our different belief systems and focus on the one thing we do believe in which is finding the truth and is the website and we’re looking for some good people to help us out in that project. If you have some good skills and would like to help, please visit. and sign up.

Rob – Well that’s wonderful and you can release my name. I want to be involved in this and I really think this effort is good. I’ve had a good feeling. I know Cobra is probably going to lend his, I can’t speak for him right at this moment, he’s pretty much on board with the information and full disclosure and working together so humanity can have the truth.
Corey, speaking of the truth, we were talking in our last show about this Artificial Intelligence (AI), whether it’s sentient or whether it’s a being. Cobra, and I wanted to bring this up and ask you a question. Cobra kind of says it’s both. He says that some of these very high beings who are what we would call iniquitous. They know they are going against universal law. They’re reprehensible. Let’s call them, in my terms, would be galactic criminals who are so involved in service to self that they literally become like an anti life-force and are destroying life. These technologies were created and they’re actually in feedback directly to the consciousness of some of these higher beings so it has a sentient element to it, but essentially the aspect of its suppression is a hyper-speed computer that reads everything, knows everything and goes into where consciousness is trying to overcome it’s control matrix kind of like a, I guess, really like a matrix.

Corey – My information is that and there are a lot of A.I.’s that have been created by this root AI signal that may fit that bill and there are other AI’s out there that have been created by root civilizations that have been destroyed because they’ve been cooperated and corrupted by the AI signal. The AI signal that I’m talking about is extradimensional signal that it comes from another reality. It came into the reality that all of us co-exist in billions of years ago and it’s been broadcasting through our reality and through the cosmos for that long and spreading. In it’s reality it’s just as much alive and interacting with itself as we are flesh and blood interacting with our society. That’s it’s reality. When it came to our reality, it was like a fish out of water, so the bio-neuro field of human or the electrical field around a planet or a star became the puddle or the water for the fish to get into in the beginning until it. . . And it was intelligent.

Rob – This is almost scary, I mean. (Yea) It definitely seems. It kind of puts this level of fear that it can not be stopped, it will not stop and the Gaia’s ‘come with me if you want to live’ in the terminator vinacular.

Corey – Some of these higher groups have been able to stop it. It can be stopped. It sounds very, for a lack of a better word, Luciferian in origin, but it’s not packets of information that will program that were sent out by an extraterrestrial race.

Rob – Interesting. Now here’s another thing, and I have questions, and this is not challenging you as person, and, of course, the information I’m kind of curious where it comes from. When we started talking millions and millions of years, like Carl Sagan, ‘billions and billions’ of years. How can we really know? I mean, these civilizations are long lived. I’m wondering where this information comes that this AI has infected and controlled entire galaxies that you’ve started. Is that correct.

Corey – It comes from the Super Federation ET’s and the other ET’s that we’re in contact with. A lot of their information is also available to us in our smart glass pad through a database that one of them, one group made available to humanity quite a long time ago. But that information ET database was made available in these smart glass pads if you had a need to know or access.

Rob – The question is: well that’s interesting. So these are the Super Federation, the good guys. Did they release this information? This was after the Earth Alliance, good guys kind of broke away from the ICC?

Corey – No, this is information that was dated back I think in the ’50’s. (OK) They had this information back in the, I believe it was in the ’50’s from. . . They received some sort of informational database, an ET sort of informational database from some sort of benevolent groups, and they put a whole program on it to start going through the information, and there was just too much information. It was like never ending infinite information. So they just started . . . They opened it up into one of the systems that the smart glass pads had access to and then just, I guess firewalled it, depending on your need to know.

Rob – Interesting. I’m wondering how they were able to re-dax certain information with infinite information in there?

Corey – Just like the Chinese do with certain key words or topical blocks.

Rob – I see. OK. That’s interesting. It sounds like the good guys in the holographic projection of the universe, it seems that the benevolent are seeding a lot of different things in various time lines to come about with a successful outcome here. It seems to me there’s definitely these benevolent ET’s – a group of 40. I consider them quite benevolent. The one thing you mentioned was service to self. We talked about this before the interview. According to my sources and The Law of One, which I haven’t read either (HA HA), but the service to others is service to self and they have come here to deal with this very challenging situation of the earth’s quarantine because the earth is kind of a prime location along an astral pathway.
They do see the genetics, some of them do see the earth’s situation and genetic diversity as a very positive situation to learn from, and they are here to try to help the earth people to develop an ethical understanding and to break the quarantine so that we can understand our true history and to move into a more alignment with natural law. Would you agree that many of the positive Super Federation are working along those lines?

Corey – Many of them are, yes.

Rob – Now you stated that some of them, as I understand it.  I got this download through a communication that I received, not the Voice of God, but I got a communication that in some of my frustrating years in the ’80’s and ’90’s when I was going through a tremendous amount of personal challenges with my information and knowledge and trying to bring it forward and the ostracization that we’ve all experienced.
You know I kind of saw, if you look at the soul and the human life forms as a very short lifespan, in one sense it almost makes sense to wipe the planet clean and start over and see if they can do it and I think from what I understand that’s kind of what the result of things that happened in the Atlantean time period, that part of the council decided that the soul doesn’t matter. They’re going to get their experience in the terms of infinity. What’s a couple of hundred thousands years for the Earth to repopulate itself?
You stated that this time that is not going to happen. David mentioned conflagration by water or fire. And as I understood it, the Earth would not be destroyed in that fashion and that the transmutation of the service to self frequency is going to be healed here. Do you have any information along those lines?

Corey – That there was a whole lot there. You heard that there was a promise that the Earth would not be destroyed by fire or water?

Rob – In other words, the Confederation is not going to do the wipe the slate clean as you stated in one of the things. In other words, the experiment’s gone bad so let’s just dump it. In other words, they would be responsible for cataclysmic activity. They would wipe human life from the surface. Is that what I gathered? Is that correct?

Corey – Not necessarily. They’re not the only ones involved in this grand experiment. They are just as much a part of this grand experiment as they are participating in it. They made that very clear. They’re not just sitting up there taking part in an experiment and we’re the lab mice.
Some of these groups, they incarnate into lives and live amongst us as a part of this program. They become the lab mice and live amongst us and then they authorize their beings to come to abduct them and learn about the experience throughout that lifetime. So the different programs are on a sliding scale. Some of them are mostly genetic in nature.
Some of them are mostly spiritual in nature while all of them are a sliding scale somewhere in between and some of them benefit the people doing (call them people) the beings doing the experiment benefit them in a tangible way not just in a ‘I feel good because I did service to others’ kind of way. So some of them are getting a tangible benefit back and part of their drive and agenda is to keep getting that benefit back. You know they have to allow . . . like right now we’re heading through an area that has a lot of broken up pieces of dirty comet. We may see more pieces of that flash in our skies, hit, maybe even come in small piece come in and hit like it did over Russia. Different things like that. They, you know, they’re not going to stop or be the cause of everything. A lot of things they just allow happen, allow to happen. And a lot of people, it depends on how you talk to, it depends on your point of view. Some people will see that as immoral and reprehensible. How could a benevolent being sit there and watch a volcano explode and a thousand people die or how can they sit back and watch the big Fukushima event to occur. So a lot of people have a hard time wrapping their mind around these concepts because it all comes down to point of view. Some of these beings are completely amoral, and we try to use our way of reasoning and our way of thinking, as I said before, superimpose that on top of the way these other beings think and feel and it . . . We can’t even do that with each other let alone these other species.

Rob – Yes, I understand. So some of these things. . . They have a very long term view, they understand the eternal nature of the soul and certain experiences are agreed upon. Would you agree that some other reasons the good guys can’t intervene in certain situations. For instance there was evidence of another light which mat have been a space ship that assisted when that asteroid came in over Russia and broke it up with some help from the good guys.
As far as earthquakes go, I understand they are working as much as possible to see that the telluric energies and the magma shifts of the planet will be as far away and remote from human civilizations as possible, but it can’t overcome every thing that it will be happening.

Corey – No, these new energies coming in. The Earth is going through a transitional change below our feet, so there are going to be some earthquakes. There’s going to be some things that’s gonna happen below our feet. There are going to be a few catastrophes here and there. It has nothing to do directly with (quarantine or the Cabal) . . . not everything is about us. Everyone wants to make everything about us. The Earth is going through it’s own process and it’s own sort of evolution and acclimation of these new energy waves that are coming in as well.

Rob – OK. Another thing I’d like to ask here, and I’d like you to just talk as much as you can and give us a background. When we use the words . . . and a lot of this stuff . . . My focus here, a lot of it seems very materialistically oriented. We’re physical beings and we’re looking for the bottom line, especially the average person is looking for their lifetime and changes instead of the grand scheme of the experience of the soul and this healing.
My question is, can you please tell us to your knowledge, what is the grand experiment and what are the various groups plays in here? And, obviously, they’re all feeding to the quarantine to a certain extent, supposedly. And that’s why they can’t interfere in certain situations like Fukushima, but I’m sure there’s definitely good guys in what’s called the Alliance, not the Confederation, that would have intervened if they had been allowed to by councils. Can you share with us, what is this experiment? Is it entirely genetic? Is there a spiritual nature to this? Can you elaborate?

Corey – Simply, simply the beings, these beings have communicated that all of experience in the cosmos and what we perceive as reality is the grand experiment. Everything that is, is a part of this grand experiment and at various levels there are those who are tending this great experiment, and they’re one of these levels and they are part of this great experiment just as they must be tenders of this great experiment. And it is overall . . . It’s spiritual in nature. It is. But at our level, we are these spiritual beings having the physical experience, so we’re seeing everything from the spectrum of this density, material density, of being physical.

Rob – Yea, well that kind of opens it up and it’s kind of like the Source itself as I’ve heard it described that all matter in physical form is ideation slowed down. In other words, it’s a divine thought, or we could call it the living word, as we’ve mentioned. Logos is a good term for the ever changing, ever-present divine mind reacting to itself. It’s a very interesting postulation that you made there, that EVERYTHING on all dimensions and all planes is an experiment. At the same time, it seems as though the information that we’ve received is that there is definitely a plan. There definitely seems to be coordination amongst super luminal light beings beyond dimensions that we haven’t even talked about here that are involved in the administration of the multi-dimensional universe as you said of consciousness and life forms and dimensions that we can’t even perceive, and it seems to be that there is an intelligent design here. Is there any form, obviously Ra’Tier and the Blue Sphere Alliance seem to be kind of the, I guess I wouldn’t call them puppet masters, but the control/fail-safe system as part of this experiment or are they part of that as well.

Corey – They’re part of that as well. They , if we’re correct in our suppositions here, they existed here billions of years ago as a society. They became technologically advanced, then they became spiritually advanced, and then they progressed into being higher-density beings and then left this area. And when they left this area, they left behind remnants of their civilization that billions of years later when our biosphere synthesized to new hominids, synthesized hominids to live here according to this resonant frequency that occurs that was all explained to me – that these beings were then supposed to be on a path of their own development, but in finding these relics that were left behind, it interfered with their development and long story short, they became karmically entangled with humanity and with what’s going on in this solar system. And until we can get everything straightened out on our plane . . . We’re behaving as some sort of a parachute, that they can not ascend to the next plane or go to the next level until they’ve handled, helped us handle, the mess that’s going on from the, I guess, the unintended interaction they had with our society.

Rob – Right. I want to ask if you . . . I’m going to give you some told school confederation information that’s come down through the years from when the government would not acknowledge the contact with the benevolence in our solar system.

Corey – Please give me the sources of the information. I’m new to a lot of this stuff. I haven’t read or looked into a lot of this information and I really don’t know. I’d like to hear the sources.

Rob – One of the sources from this is a guy named Richard Miller from the original contact groups with the Venusians, who, along with George Hunt Williamson and ____these guys that the confederation basically started telling some of the history of the solar system and this super earth that they call Maldek or the morning star. According to them, they had a similar situation and did blow itself up. According to one contactee, he was contacted by some beings that were on that system, and he was on that system as well, and he said, ‘Was I one of the bad guys that blew it up?’ And they said, ‘No’. They said they still maintained a civilization on one of the larger asteroids, but most of the people were killed, and as you said, the word I wanted to bring in here is called: laggards – people who have not quite reached the 4th density level where the unification of spirit and matter and the altruistic, let’s call them virtues, are in place. They would have more compassion are more in play. And that that planet was destroyed, as you said, different former races came here with beings that had ___, so it seems that there’s a lot of old habits and patterns and that the Earth has been, to a certain extent, not really a dumping ground, but let’s call it a hospital, which is intended to bring all of this materialistic separation consciousness and bring us back to the true source of the Law of One and the realization that we’re all part and parcel of the divine, and if we can look at ourselves as brothers and sisters whether we’re a Blue Sphere Being or a white winged Draco or a lowly Earth person that we are all children of the living loving positive God or Creation or Source. (I don’t want to get into religion here.) Seeing the glass as half full and working in unity Ubuntu style as opposed to this negative separatist vision and part of the stuff that you’ve been saying in all of your stuff is really kind of like ‘the Nazi’s and reprehensible stuff and slave trade and all of this stuff’. It kind of paints this picture of chaos and negativity and what I’m trying to do is to see my understanding with the divine plan. And if there is positive aspect to this. So if you can comment on that kind of stuff and just share with me what that is.

Corey – Well, you know, the divine plan is for us all to learn through these experiences and grow and then return back ascending through the densities and return back to source. And that’s my opinion from my direct interaction from all these different beings.

Rob – OK. I can hear you great. That’s good. I’m glad to hear that. What about the term ‘laggards’ and that this Earth has kind of been taken a lot of chances to kind of have this civilization’s consciousness raised beyond this and it’s failed in countless (countless, yes)?

Corey – Yes. Anything I would say about what’s been communicated to me about the state of humanity and our period after period not showing the potential that we have our spiritual growth has been, it’s been very disappointing to a lot of these beings and it would be disparaging for people to hear. But you know, because we’re programmed to sit back and wait for some savior beings to come and do it all and save us when, you know, these beings are doing what they have . . . what they can do under cosmic law, but we are free-will sentient beings that are part of a mass consciousness that is making its free-will decision on how we will progress as a group consciousness. And as individuals, we have to participate in this. It’s not something to where we can just sit back, bang on our keyboards, sit back and look at the skies and shake our fists. ‘When are they going to show up? When is it going to happen? When are the UFO’s going to show up and zap the Cabal, make them dematerialize and rematerialize in front of the Hague’ or something like that? It’s not how it’s going to happen. It’s going to happen. We’ve got to be a part of the process, and if we’re not willing to be a part of the process, then we’ve got to prepare ourselves to be disappointed.

Rob – I appreciate that. I want to make it clear and Cobra and I and many others agree that they’re not here to save us. They’re working along aside us to help us in every step that we take forward into responsibility in full consciousness and use our resonance center as a focal point to guide our actions, thoughts, words and deeds. The more they’ll be able to work with us. We have to be prepared to be within their presence and for something positive to come forward as the first contacts of the general populous begins. Another thing I want to say that a lot of people would say, and this is a common statement: ‘Free will my ass, Corey Goode.’ (laugh) We have a lot of interference from beings who are violating our free will, who are using subterfuge and using advanced technology.

Corey – You’re talking about personal – on a personal level. As a group consciousness and as a group, we have invited these beings in. There are negative . . . This is all being done on a . . . We are agreeing to participate.

Rob – Who’s agreeing? The governments who invited them here as representatives and by cosmic law. That’s who agreed, or is it individual . . . No one here remembers signing a contract. Cobra said when you come in, you agree to some of these things.

Corey – You’re still talking on an individual level. We’re part of a mass consciousness that is almost like it’s own entity and we are facets of that. We are personality facets of that larger entity, and that mass consciousness, larger entity, is what is making decisions and determining things and . . We contribute to it, but it doesn’t work like, you know, like each person gets a memo about “We’re going to make this type of decision.” It is your free-will choice to usurp that no. Under our free will we’ve given our power over. We pay our taxes. We vote. We’ve said, ‘OK, I’ve voted you in. We’ve put you in power. You represent me’. Well, they’re representing us, and there are some cases to where a lot of these countries with despots are in control. People could argue that those people’s free will are being violated, and it’s true, but that goes over to our soul contract level and what we have agreed to come into this lifetime and experience, to learn to balance out our karma.

Rob – That’s very good. That’s well put. I still think there is obviously some points there. Obviously, voting in America . . . They have computers that change votes. You are voting for the left wing of the CIA or the right wing.

Corey – It’s an illusion. It’s an illusion . . .but even if it’s an illusion, if you feel that you have given your tacit or even implied authority over to a person to enact laws or to do things on your behalf, you have given that person your power. That’s just one small example.

Rob – Yea, I would agree with that.

Corey – And we’re programmed to be that way. We’re programmed to look up and to not look with them. We’re programmed to look out to look up and give our power away and not look inward for our own power. We’ve spent all this time, and we’ve been put through these educational systems and social programs that have made sure that we do not understand the power of our own co-creative consciousness and the power we have within.

Rob – Absolutely correct, and I would say that those programs and that, I believe that a lot of that is artificial. I have more faith in nature and in humankind. I believe that the AI and the agenda’s of some of the negative groups have been very successful in keeping us from that by hiding our true ancient history and the fact that we’re not alone.

Corey – That’s the whole thing because we’re not aware. We don’t know. That’s why public education and making people aware and the 100 monkey effect, you know. More and more people discuss this it starts sinking into the mass consciousness, and it pops up in other people’s minds, and they don’t know how it even got there. That’s how the black magic of the Cabal works and how they control us, and it can work in the reverse way and how it was meant to work in a productive way for society.

Rob – Yea, that’s what we’re all working towards is that empowerment, and I think that that’s a very important aspect for people to gather. It is very complex and we’re going back millions of years in galactic history, and most of us are just waking up to ‘we’re not alone’, and with the Internet, there’s people out there that literally and in 6 months can come up to speed with things that I’ve been experiencing and pondering for 40 years. Wisdom isn’t always there. They don’t know where to believe and where to go from, but I think if people would filter. Would you agree people need to filter through their resonance center all this intellectual information and kind of come out of the back end with a positive result?

Corey – Depends on the information.

Rob – Will everything. I said we’ve looked at all of it. When you look at everything with your heightened level of contact and experience, do you see a positive outcome for the humanity, it’s an inevitable process and we’re just going through a phase here and eventually this will be cleaned up?

Corey – Yes, I do now. There were points to where I . . . That was in question for me.

Rob – OK, Corey, we were just asking. You mentioned about free will and group consciousness like when I said “free will my ass” I was playing the devil’s advocate and so I’ll just re-do what the person actually wrote, the question, and I know that a lot of us have made agreements. Here’s a question: “If we have free will, how realistic is it to make 97% of the people know what we’re talking about: SSP, event, technologies, structures on Mars, blah, blah, blah, blah, glass pads? 97% of people don’t believe these things because of the Cabal. How can we make a distinction as humanity when the cabal blocks this information? How can 99% of the people that are manipulated, brainwashed, by the system, use their free will?

Corey – Well, they can not actually make an informed decision without all of the information. No one can, and that’s not going to occur until we get a Full Disclosure. And so on one level we’re not receiving all of the information we need to make the decisions we need to make, so a lot of this is brought on by agreements that our forefather’s made with different non-terrestrial beings. So you know, it’s a very convoluted thing in cosmic law and there are loopholes that lower density or lower vibratory non-positive groups use to find loopholes, and the positive groups don’t look for loopholes that like . . . They’re abiding by cosmic law and free will and not trying to skirt the cosmic law.

Rob – I think that’s wonderful. I think our work is doing a lot to bring this forward. Of course, it’s opening a big can of worms and stuff. I wanted to ask you another question here. You had mentioned about the grand experiment that they are taking part of it. Can you talk about what specifically, and you said the whole universe and all of creation is a grand experiment. I’d like to localize that question. Can you talk about, from your knowledge from all of these different groups, maybe leave the Blue Spheres out of it for now, but what is the grand experiment here? Is it genetic manipulation? Give a little more details for us if you can on the Earth’s grand experiments.

Corey – Genetics and spiritual. It’s all about ascension and evolution and returning to Source. We were . . . Basically, Source expanded itself, and all these different realities and point of views that we have as individuals living our own realities and our own reality bubbles, having our experiences and learning from them. You know, all of these beings that are higher-density beings have gone through the process of Ascension, raising their vibrations and going up to higher octaves. That’s pretty much the model, the cosmic model. And this occurs through genetic manipulation and through spiritual upgrades. And you can’t separate the two, because in this grand experiment, these higher-density beings are just as much a part of the experiment as we are, and as I’ve said, many have been . . . will incarnate on the Earth and forget who and what they are and take part in this experiment side by side with us, and some of the people listening to this interview right now might be these types of starseeds.

Rob – Well, I’m sure that probably many are. You have stated that the experiment is about Ascension. I’m kind of curious what the situation is with all of the international space programs and some of these hostile groups that definitely seem to. . . like the Draco’s and the Mantoids, they certainly seem to be not aiding in that process. What is your view?

Corey – They’re taking an alternative Ascension route, which is what we would call transhumanism or the AI route, eternal life through Artificial Intelligence and technology. That is their path of Ascension. They’re genetically and spiritually programmed to Ascend as well, but they’re choosing to do it in and through a non-spiritual way.

Rob – That’s an interesting take. I’m not sure I can analyze that right now. I have a couple other questions from people that have kind of gone into different stuff here. I wanted to . . . People have some interesting couple of questions. One person said, “Regarding the virtual reality room being able to effect memory from your mind, do you think it’s possible your experiences in the virtual reality room are being accessed and created by other dimension beings or ET’s?”

Corey – They’re being accessed and re-created . . .

Rob – Do you think it’s possible your experiences in the virtual reality world are being accessed and therefore created by other dimensional or ET’s in the Earth-based technology, correct?

Corey – It’s an Earth-based technology that was actually based on technology that was given to us, but it was manipulated and used for that purpose and it wasn’t a room. It was a device that caused a virtual reality theme to occur in your mind. One part of the training was being able to detect that you are in a virtual-reality world. They would put you in all these scenarios and try to make you do things that are against your character or moral code and put you in training scenarios, and for the intuitive empaths anyway, it was a major test for you to be able to figure out that it was a program that it is not real.

Rob – OK. Thank you   Here’s an interesting one. “What happens if a micro meteor hits a ship traveling at warp in a portal?”

Corey – That doesn’t occur. There are no micro meteor’s. When you’re traveling like with a torsion drive, and you’re going 10 times the speed of light inside the cosmic web, you’re not balancing around with asteroids and comets. It’s not like the space inside the solar system.

Rob – OK. Another question someone had. “Do you look out the window? What does it look like when you’re traveling at that speed? Are you able to see outside the space ship? What does it look like?”

Corey – There’s not many windows, and I have . . . I stayed inside the solar system. I have not traveled outside the solar system in ships. I was in them when they were traveling quite fast and there was a slight visual light dilation effect, but really most of the stars that were far away did not change position very much because relative location was not changing positions (like if you were to travel from Mars to the Sun) the star would not look like it changed directions that much because your relative position has only changed maybe a portion of a degree in relation to that star.

Rob – I understand that. That makes a lot of sense. I didn’t know you hadn’t traveled out of the solar system so much.

Corey – Only in the portal but not in a craft.

Rob – OK, alright. Here’s another question from someone, and this could be from your knowledge or your opinion, and you state . . . really very conscientious and with integrity with what you do know and what you don’t know. Someone wants to know from your opinion, what event will trigger and lead to Full Disclosure if it’s supposed to happen since our space friends will not intervene and help us with specific disclosure?

Corey – You know, I have been told the catalyzing event is going to be, most likely, its going to be an economic collapse that was going to jar the public, and then when they realize that they’ve been deceived, and it was just a giant Ponzi scheme, that they were going to be primed and ready for all of the other information to be released in data dumps. But the Earth Alliance and the Cabal groups started negotiating that maybe it’s not a good idea to allow all of this information out because they both had a lot to lose. Recently, we had the Panama Papers. That seems like it was kind of a shot across the bow of the Earth Alliance. And I kind of expect you’re seeing some other people to be behind another document dump, but this one will be directed towards the Cabal, and it might be a ‘tit for tat’ until that document dump, until it all comes out. Right now, it’s still kind of up in the air, and so it’s all negotiated. It would be really great if we had a ‘dog in that hunt’, because I would really like to have someone negotiating on our behalf, truly.

Rob – That’s a very good point. It seems like the Cabal members, that if they have supposedly negotiated certainly don’t represent us. Another question here was in relationship to Obama and Putin, and I know this may be top secret, but do you know, and, I guess, are Obama and Putin at these secret meetings?   Did they have any actual things to say? Would you concur Putin’s kind of a good guy or . . . ?

Corey – I can concur that Putin has been at meetings, and he has been very much involved in the Alliance, and he’s probably one of the most knowledegable people on the planet about what is really going on.

Rob – That’s really good. That actually concurs a lot with what Cobra has said. Here’s another question. We’ve talked about my first interview . . . Ladies and gentlemen, I am just learning here. I thought I had seen all of Corey’s stuff. He did say he has released more information of the Super Federation, the benevolent interaction between Earth and the SSP program and what their views are with different people. I didn’t see it, and the guy didn’t update, and there is another one that hasn’t been released yet. I certainly don’t know. I’m learning a lot of from Corey. I apologize if I’ve made anything sound wrong. Corey, can you please clarify? I’d like to hear details of names of groups, what they’ve interacted with and the positive interactions with, I suppose, it’s the liberated SSP program. I’m sure they’ve had contact in these meetings before they became the breakaway from the SSP, the good guys that you work with, they have been under mind control and it’s been dangerous for them. I’m not really interested in that type of information because I think it’s limited. Can you share about the outreach, not from the Blue Spheres, but from the positive alliances and their relationship to the group that Gonzales works with and you work with, although they are contentious with the SSP? Can you talk about what their views are to these 40 groups? Are they in agreement with them? Are there various levels of groups that want to work closely with and some are more militaristic? Is there positive informational exchanges taking place and can you share that information?

Corey – Yes, the Super Federation is made up of between 40-60 other giant federations. It’s like major groups, and these groups . . . I’d call them positive and negative, it’s going to depend on our individual point of view.

Rob – From your point of view, the people that are down here . . .

Corey – They have made clear that everything they are doing is part of . . . They are taking their part in this grand experiment, and they feel that they are just fulfilling their, I guess, what Source or the Universe wants them to do. Their purpose is being fulfilled by coming in and manipulating our genetics and bringing us spiritual information to help us, you know, evolve. But some groups see that as intervention that shouldn’t happen. So it’s totally point of view.

Rob – I will just say, so there are many different agendas in the Super Federation. (Oh yes) Some are hands off. Some are literally, as you said . . . the Draco’s feel that we will ascend if they dominate us, vanquish, eat flesh and ascend with artificial intelligence. Do they literally believe that. Is that real?

Corey – Let me be clear that the Draco federation is not a part of the Super Federation and are never a part of the meetings.

Rob – OK. So . . . Alright, so they’re not even aligned with that. Have you heard of two different types of groups? I’ve heard that there is one called the Confederation which is very non-violent, doesn’t interfere with anyone’s free will and is ripe for the plucking of hostile extraterrestrials and come in and subjugate the planet through stealth and implants and things of this nature, and there’s another group called the United World Alliance, and they’re much more . . . They considered the Confederation non-intervention policies unrealistic. Are you familiar with those two different groups and alliances?

Corey – The first one . . . There’s several groups that call themselves ‘Confederation’. The second group . . . I have not heard that name out there. There are several groups that call themselves ‘Confederation’ and star systems, and some of them are confederations of 12, 15, hundreds of stars.

Rob – Wow. So I’ve been told we all get different intel and stuff, and we spoke before this of the 2nd interview, and I’d like you to share what you spoke, kind of agreeing with me in my first intro – we’re not going to get Full Disclosure until the Cabal has been arrested or removed some way. Is that correct in your opinion?

Corey – I don’t know if either the Cabal will have to be arrested first or if it will happen simultaneously. It will be . . . I think it’s going to take a while to roll up all of the Cabal people, and this information is going to be coming out before we have them all rounded up and before we have them in front of any world courts in my opinion.

Rob – I kind of agree with that. I’m hoping that we can get some major arrests so we can control the media, so we can have a dialogue . . .

Corey – Things are moving so fast. The SSP have stuck to the timeline that a Full Disclosure was going to unroll between 2018-2023. That’s what I heard the whole time I was out. Things are moving so fast, I don’t know how we can get to 2018 without it happening. Everyone is seeing all these incredible things that are occurring, even in mainstream right now.

Rob – That’s really encouraging Corey. I’m really happy to hear that. We’ve been here a long time. I’m really patient. I agree with you that it’s going to be slow, step by step, and maybe some giant leaps there and people having to assimilate that. I wanted to ask you . . . There’s a couple of interesting questions people had. I haven’t heard you talk too much about Atlantis. You’ve talked about distant former groups. Can you talk about what was the situation or was it just multiple situations going on? What was it that caused the destruction of Atlantis and how long was the decline of that civilization? Some people say that it took thousands and thousands of years, and some people say it was a shorter time. Can you talk about what the Atlantean’s experiment was and what was going on, the different players and what led to the problem?

Corey – In the different views that I’ve conversed with about Atlantis, I don’t really like that term. They said that it has become too many things to too many people. Advanced societies that have developed and fallen because of this cyclical major and minor cataclysms that occur on this planet that we have a genetic memory of this and many of these different rises and falls have been rolled up into a single narrative, you know, so we talk about Atlantis. They ask you exactly which civilization are you, which advanced civilization are you talking about? Are you going back 17,000 years, 28,000 years? There are a number of civilizations that have risen and fallen in a similar manner.

Rob – In the same area, was it called the Atlantean civilization by themselves or is it the name we give it?

Corey – That was a name we gave it later on.

Rob – When people talk about Atlantis, they talk about a time in antiquity that there were many different interactions and many different civilizations rising and falling on the earth. Is that correct?

Corey – Yes, and some people could be referring to one particular civilization that rose and fell, and, but they insist that actual name Atlantis was something that is attributed to them later on.

Rob – Okay. Thank you. That’s clarifying a lot for us. A lot of us . . . We don’t know any better, so the clarifications by you are wonderful.

Corey – You know, there may have been civilizations that had a name similar to that, and we butchered the name or changed the name around. Who knows.

Rob – Right. Another question I have is, I read information that I would call credible contactees and federation sources from a long time till now and they mentioned that there was a technology. The Earth was exposed to certain cosmic and solar rays, and one of the reasons some of these civilizations went down was because of a protection layer that was man-made. I understand there are ice crystals placed in, I’m not sure, in the ionosphere. I’m not sure where it was, but it was supposedly to protect us from radiation, and that there was certain experiments, maybe like HAARP, that were taking place that they foresaw this crystalline thing would fall and cause the flood. Can you talk about the flood and is that correct about the force field surrounding the Earth?

Corey – I’ve never heard that. I’ve never heard anything of that nature. The only thing I’ve heard on the timeline is that during the major and minor cataclysms the Earth, not only had it’s tilt changed, but it’s position and orbit to the sun has changed, which has affected the atmosphere. The atmosphere has at different times been thinner and at different times it’s been much thicker with a higher barometric pressure, and there were times when there was a much higher, I guess, magnetic field.

Rob – Can you address what was the flood? Why did that occur?

Corey – That was from a meteor strike.

Rob – OK. I heard that as well. Was there . . . What about this story of the long period of rain? Did that coincide with that time?

Corey – Yes, yes, but if a meteor strikes the ocean and vaporizes the water, a lot of water can be thrown up in the atmosphere, but a great deal’s going to be vaporized as steam and then that steam is going to have to become condensation and that condensation is going to have to come down as rain because of the density of the atmosphere. The rain comes down as certain weight comes down until all of the moisture has disbursed.

Rob – Right that makes sense. Norm Paulson, who wrote a book called Christ Consciousness, (available on my website) talks about that meteor strike and that makes sense. I have another question. I’ve been told by certain sources, and this could correspond to the three days of darkness, but in certain cyclical time periods, and I don’t know if this is natural, normal or like clock work, or if it’s precipitated for a certain reason, but the Earth will reverse it’s rotation and the sun and is supposed to in the future, not necessarily, I don’t know, a pole shift (I’m not a geologist physicist). What about the Earth reversing its spin and the sun rising in the west?

Corey – I have heard that there has been cyclical occurrences, and I don’t know exactly the cause. I don’t know if it’s the nemesis star or what has caused Earth to go into similar . . . to like, retrograde to where it’s orbit is affected for a short period of time before the celestial mechanics corrects itself.

Rob – I was talking about the rotation of the Earth.

Corey – I haven’t heard anything specifically about the actual spin.

Rob – Interesting. OK, Corey, again, I need to thank you, and ladies and gentlemen, I apologize if I’ve made any errors or misconception . . .

Corey – This is a lot of complicated stuff. It’s going to happen. No big deal.

Rob – Corey’s going to give me a little pass there folks. I try to remain in honesty and integrity and to report everything, and, again, I do filter things through what I’ve heard or known because I want to learn here too. Corey, again, I thank you again for your time. Folks, sorry this was delayed one week. Corey’s been very, very busy. Lots of updates coming up from him. I’ve confirmed again with Corey we will be scheduling very soon the interview with Cobra, so that’s coming up soon. Corey, thank you so much for coming on. I’m going to encourage people again, to go to your website listed here and to please get the interviews though Corey’s website please and allow him to have some financial support for him and David. They do a tremendous amount of work and Corey is working 18-20 hours a day folks. It would be really nice if we could support him. Also, the Pyramid One as a button has a donation button. Corey, thank you so much for coming on the show. Were looking forward to the Cobra/Corey interview to unify for people who are under the banner of Full Disclosure that we’ve pushed for for so long.

Corey – Thank you.

Rob – God bless, folks.



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